New APF 2k8 video (Rhino game to heez)

This video looks a lot cleaner, faster framerate, smoother animations. This may be worth a look in the 2 weeks between when it comes out and madden 08 comes out.

APF 2k8 Screens

There are a couple dozen more here.

APF 2k8 More information

You can read the entire article here.

When we asked Thomas how deep the customization of the gameplay would be, he replied that the development team wants to let players define what is going to make their squad a success, and that includes practically every aspect of the game. Gamers will have the opportunity to edit team names, player uniforms and even the cities that their teams will be able to play in. If players don't feel like tweaking a team at all, they can simply select one of the pre-built squads and leap into the game. As for the teams, Thomas mentioned that the squads will be comprised of a mix between legendary athletes that you choose and fictional pro players, although he didn't mention what the specific balance would be on a roster.

Balls. I was hoping there wouldn't be any fictional players. Oh well. Stay tuned for screenshots and trailers later on tonight. Visual Concepts did not reveal what the online experience entails.

Another Article here, on the sports side of the IGN network, asks Jerry Rice about the draft and the game.

"You got a phenom like Calvin Johnson, a freak of nature. He can run a 4.3, he's 6-4, about 240, and that's amazing. The records can be broken, but whoever is going to take these one, whether it's Calvin or someone else, they are going to have to sacrifice, they are going to have to work their butt off to try and make it. Until then, you'll just have to settle for me in this game. Just make sure you draft me with your first pick. From what I've heard, I'm the most dominant player in the game, and that's just the way I like it."

edit: 8:00 pm

Gamespot has an article up. I like this information.

"There are no set teams if you don't want them," Thomas said. At one point in the trailer, for example, it seemed like Elway and Barry Sanders were playing for the same team. And while Thomas said you can play with a preset team in the game's season mode, the focus of the game will be on building a team from the ground up and then putting your dream team up against all comers, whether in the single player game, or via offline or online multiplayer. Just how you will go about building that team, what kind of restrictions you'll have, what players will be available from the get-go, and how you will go about recruiting the best players of all time--well, we don't know yet. All we know is that the focus will be on creating a team of incredible talent and then going out and decimating the competition.

Hands on APF 2k8 Preview

over at 2ksports forums, a guy posted an early preview of APF 2k8. Take it with a grain of salt. I haven't heard if it is true or not.

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My thoughts after 45 minutes with it

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Sorry mods if this is inappropiate after having my other thread closed. If so, and I COMPLETELY undertsand, then close this one up as well and I won't bring it up again.

After posting this late last night I freaked. I mean, I really panicked. I signed an NDA and while I *probably* won't get busted I am still, for obvious reasons, a little worried about this. With that said, I'll leave this here and keep my fingers crossed. One thing I will add before pasting my original thoughts on this AMAZING game is that I am a diehard football video game junkie. It is what got me into gaming way back when Madden was first released on the Sega Genesis so when I say that this game is absolutely the greatest football game ever, I absolutely mean it! Of course, this is just my opinion but I truly believe that once this game is in everyones hands that, while there will be some folks that don't like the player models, the way the announcers talk or what have you, it will most definitely change the way football is done on consoles/PC's from here on.

Anyways, heres what I posted last night.


Sorry it took so long to get back here folks. I had a monster day and then went out to dinner, etc so sorry to keep everyone waiting.

Okay, first off, it is late and I'm beat. Second, I have an all day long photo shoot tomorrow and need to get to sleep. Having said that i'll get this party started and continue as time permits. Bare with me on this guys. It is busy time for me this time of year and the days ahead are booked solid but i'll give you all the answers I can over the next few days or so.

I only got to play the game for about 45 minutes. Thats because they had several people there and wanted to give some of the employees a chance to play. I imagine you'll start seeing other "reviews" or "previews" pop up. However, we were reminded on more than one occasion that we all signed NDAs and were expected to honor this.

60 FPS. Animations that DESTROY ANYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN IN A SPORTS GAME EVER! Incredible weather effects. A presentation that makes Madden's look like a complete joke (we already knew that 2K5 did this but just WAIT until you see what they have done with APF) Reports from the sidelines, great play by play and color (same guys from the previous games). The presentation makes you feel like you are actually watching a real game of football. 2K5 did this great but APF makes you go ****!

In the 45 minutes I played this game I did not ONE TIME notice ANY repeat animations. Sure, the QB dropping back and maybe the WR catching some times were repeated but everything else was truly remarkable to witness. Over and over again I was floored at what I was seeing. players getting pushed, tripped, slapped, falling over other players with killer collision detection. I did notice some flaws but believe me, it will not take ANYTHING away from the otherwise incredible experience.

When I played PGR on the 360 for the first time I was blown away and thought "This is next gen". Well, PGR now reminds me of PGR one the original xbox now. It seems like LAST gen LOL! APF's graphics, while fantastic (and MUCH better looking than what we saw in GI) it is the animations and tackling, running, the fumbles, gang tackles, refs getting in the way (yeah, this game had REFS ON THE FIELD! SHOCKING HUH) the players emotions (although they do look kinda funky at times) that REALLY are going to freak you out. Did I mention that all of this has dynamic lighting and runs at 60 fps?

It is all here. A TRUE football experience that will FORCE EA to get serious about Madden. Seriously, EA's Madden will get a MAJOR overhaul after they see what 2K has done. I did not, for even a SECOND, think about this game not having official NFL teams, players, stadiums. I immediately got lost in the game play. As corny as that sounds, it was true. It was Madden's first video game that got me into gaming in the first place so it is football that I look forward to every year (except these last few years because of the obvious) and APF has brought back this magic in a way that has to be seen to be believed. All without the NFL license. Imagine that .

The demo only had 2 teams to play ( RHinos and I swear I cannot remember the other team...I was too busy having my mind blown I guess) and only one stadium ( with a GIANT rhino that moved around when you scored) but you could change the time of day and weather. The rain and snow effects were unbelievable. Completely convincing and had a tremendous effect on game play. I had a running back go down with an injury and I watched the replay no less than 10 times. It looked THAT COOL! I mean, you could SEE him get hurt and how it happened. Plays that looked so real me and this guy I was playing were actually getting giddy. I was smiling like a 10 year kid and i'm in my 40's.

I know all of this sounds too good to be true but I don't give a **** at this point. I know that this game will come out and every single video gamer who truly loves the game of football will rejoice in what 2K sports have delivered.

It is 1:00am and thats all for now. Sorry guys but in 7 hours I have to get up and at them : )

Again, I know (and having gone back and read thru this) can understand it seeming a little over the top. And even may come off as a little over zealous (duh) LOL! and i'll be completely honest and admit that I may be *slightly* going overboard (easy to do once you've just played what is,IMO, and soon to be EVERYONES opinion, the GREATEST game of football ever to grace a console! But I can't help it fellas. I am truly STOKED!!!!!!

It is that good. just wait.

I actually feel sorry for EA. This will make the jerks at the NFL who were responsible for the whole "exclusive" BS take notice that they picked the WRONG COMPANY to do their game justice! Oh man. i almost wish I didnt play it. I have no idea how I can wait for this game now. kind of like Cartman when he was waiting for the Wii to be released I guess.

One last thing. I cannot be here everyday and answer a billion questions and don't get to freaked about it. I have way too many responsibilities so be cool. I'll do as much as I can.

All Pro Football 2k8

Since EA and the NFL inked an exclusive licensing agreement, the Madden Football games (06/07) have been dissapointing and sloppy. Madden 06 on the 360 was put together so quickly, a lot of the features that were in last gen's version were not there. I gave them a pass. First generation games on a new console are either ports from previous consoles or tech demos.

Madden 07 on the 360 was buggy at best sloppily excecuted at worst. The clock ran after the 2 minute warning if a penalty was called, the clock should stop. The menus were laggy offline. The game wasn't as responsive as the previous versions due to sloppy graphic programming.


Also, Madden 07's feature EA hyped the most: 3d Grass.

Madden 08's hype so far? The Madden Curse. It was a nice run for Vince Young, I hope he has good insurance.

On to what I really want to talk about APF 2k8. Here is the hook. Legendary players playing side by side. Teams will be made up from these players.

2k sports is hyping:

• Better AI.

• Instead of a 0-100 rating system, the rating system will consist of icons these represent the positive and negative effects the player has on the field. The interview with Game Informer uses an example of a mobile QB that is a fumbler. Sounds a lot like Culpepper. I wonder if they have a small hands icon. They also have special abilities. Game informer uses 4th quarter comebacks as an example.
  

• They are including game mechanics the NFL doesn't want madden to include for example: Injuries occuring in real time and having animations associated with them and on field banter.

One thing no one knows about right now is the online component. I will make a wild guess here. You will draft your team offline and you will be able to play that team on line. A couple of reasons for this. The teams in the game have no real life counterpart and the players will probably be all of roughly the same calibur, with the exceptions of the special abilities and small hands handicaps. If this is the case, I know a lot of people that will pick this up either with madden or instead of madden.

the price point right now: 59 dollars for ps3/360 versions. Visual Concepts and 2ksports need to work together to lower the price by 10-15. If they do that, madden is dead.